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dictators than gamble on the prospects of political islam should be supporting the regime of bashar al assad in syria. for more on this, read my column in "the washington post." there's a link on cnn.com/fareed. cnn.com/fareed. and let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we will leave it to others to analyze the ups and downs of the vice-presidential debate. we will get to the main course. what to make of mitt romney's foreign policy speech this week, what to make of the state of the arab spring, and the candidates' responses to it. joining me now are bill keller, the former executive editor of "new york times" now an op-ed columnist for that paper, danielle pletka, the vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at aei, bret stephens, "the wall street journal's" foreign affairs columnist, and kishore mahbubani, the dean and professor in the practice of public policy of the lee kuan yew school of public policy at the national university of singapore. welcome back to all of you. bill, what did you make of what was billed as romney's major foreign policy address?
dictators than gamble on the prospects of political islam should be supporting the regime of bashar al assad in syria. for more on this, read my column in "the washington post." there's a link on cnn.com/fareed. cnn.com/fareed. and let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we will leave it to others to analyze the ups and downs of the vice-presidential debate. we will get to the main course. what to make of mitt romney's foreign policy speech this week,...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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monarchies begun on the other side people who are from the shia tradition are saying we support bashar al-assad because he is a supporter of palestinians and at the same time the shia tradition. and it became something which is sectarian reading of the whole thing. and i think it's -- i allocated one section in the book about this divide between shiite and sunni pricing is one of the great challenges of our coming years because i don't see enough scholars. i don't see enough intellectuals. i don't see enough public figures and people being ready to say she i and sunni -- shia and sunni, where muslims altogether and we have to stick to some principles. it's not because he's supporting shiite -- he is a dictator, and just be some principles we have to get rid of dictatorship. and he has to be removed and to find a way. but i was exactly the same in bahrain. all the people, what was done in bahrain by saying you know what, shiites against sunnis so we have to accept what is happening. i'm sorry, that's not right. it's not because the people -- it's right for sunni to oppress them. so we have to st
monarchies begun on the other side people who are from the shia tradition are saying we support bashar al-assad because he is a supporter of palestinians and at the same time the shia tradition. and it became something which is sectarian reading of the whole thing. and i think it's -- i allocated one section in the book about this divide between shiite and sunni pricing is one of the great challenges of our coming years because i don't see enough scholars. i don't see enough intellectuals. i...
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then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to try to come up with an agreement to the u.n. that, bought assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice, he never answers the question -- >> no, we would not be going through the u.n. i. you don't go through the u.d n. we are in the process now and have been for months, in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the turks,
then president obama saidba assad should go. it's been over a year, the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the free syrian army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the turks and the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with, working through our allies. but, no, we waited...
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assad and don't have in his place chaos or some kind of organization which is as bad as he is or even worse take his place. >> speakg of iran, the israeli prime minister drew a red line as far as its nuclear program is concerned. here is the question. is there any daylight between you and the prime minister? >> there's no daylight between the united states and israel. we have coincident interests. we share values and we're both absolutely committed to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon. my own test is that iran should not have the capability of producing a nuclear weapon. i think that's the same test that benjamin netanyahu who also aplay. i can't speak for the president in this regard, i think there has to be boundaries that the iranians should not cross. let's also recognize we have a long way to go before military action may be necessary. hopefully it's never necessary. hopefully through extremely tight sanctions as well as diplomatic action we can prevent iran from taking a course which would lead to them crossing that line. >> does prime minister netanyahu spoke of the spr
assad and don't have in his place chaos or some kind of organization which is as bad as he is or even worse take his place. >> speakg of iran, the israeli prime minister drew a red line as far as its nuclear program is concerned. here is the question. is there any daylight between you and the prime minister? >> there's no daylight between the united states and israel. we have coincident interests. we share values and we're both absolutely committed to prevent iran from having a...
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when it comes to syria, assad does need to go. we need to work with moderates in opposition and provide them with military hardware and support financially so they can do battle. the citizens there, they are being slaughtered by the thousands. when it comes to libya, i thought what happened there is unacceptable. i thought the handling of it was unacceptable. we need to have a full and immediate investigation to make sure we find out what happened. more importantly, iran, my opponents said earlier we need a nuanced approach. there is no such thing. there is only one person who will stand with israel. >> another 30 seconds. >> i have three older brothers, all of whom served in the military. my oldest brother was career military. he served in vietnam. i have some sense of not only how tough and capable they are. that is why i believe the best we can do for our military is be very careful and thoughtful about when we ask them to go to war. we need to have clear objectives. we need to know what our plan is and how we plan to get out.
when it comes to syria, assad does need to go. we need to work with moderates in opposition and provide them with military hardware and support financially so they can do battle. the citizens there, they are being slaughtered by the thousands. when it comes to libya, i thought what happened there is unacceptable. i thought the handling of it was unacceptable. we need to have a full and immediate investigation to make sure we find out what happened. more importantly, iran, my opponents said...
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we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> thank hechks we had these sanctions in place. >> what more would they do other than put american boots to the ground. >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria. >> we are leaving in 2014, period. >> we agree with the administration on their 2014 transition. >> michael, what did you make of this? >> when i saw paul ryan talk about afghanistan, it was like watching bambi on ice. it's like he had a boy scout capping p trip there once and saw the mountains and thought he was an expert. look, very specifically. this is -- ryan got really tripped up on afghanistan
we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >>...
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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we-- we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the forces agreement that the vice president said we bet his vice president see on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well, again. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? >> worldwide? >> what is in the national interests of american the people. >> how about humanitarian interest. >> it has got nobody the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national security interests of the american people. >> i want to-- we're almost out of time here. >> that means things like e
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we-- we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the forces agreement that the vice president said we bet his vice president see on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve...
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in theory, the assad regime reaches brutal war against its own people, even its territory slips from his grasp. i recently announced major new contributions of humanitarian aid and assistance for the civilian opposition. and we remain committed with their like-minded partners to increase pressure on the regime. and in yemen, where we supported negotiations that eventually achieved a peaceful trend vision, we are working to prevent al qaeda and other extremist from threatening these emerging, fragile, democratic institutions. and prevent them also from finding a safe haven for which to stage new attacks. and when i met with king abdullah of jordan last month, we discussed continuing reforms to move his country towards more democracy and prosperity. so when all of these places and many others, the united states is helping the people of those nations chart their own destinies and realize the full measure of their own human dignity. dignity is a word that means many things to different people and cultures, but it does speak to something universal in all of us. as one egyptian observed in
in theory, the assad regime reaches brutal war against its own people, even its territory slips from his grasp. i recently announced major new contributions of humanitarian aid and assistance for the civilian opposition. and we remain committed with their like-minded partners to increase pressure on the regime. and in yemen, where we supported negotiations that eventually achieved a peaceful trend vision, we are working to prevent al qaeda and other extremist from threatening these emerging,...
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more s on what they found, we would be concerned by any effort to supply military equipment to the al-assad regime because it is clearly being used by the regime against their own people. >> turkey has sided with rebels opposed to syrian president bashar al-assad fighting over the 18-month conflict between the regime and rebel forces which has displaced an estimated 300,000 syrians, sending them fleeing into turkey, jordan, iraq, and other countries. on thursday, syrian refugee described the conditions at one camp in a rebel controlled area near the turkish border. >> we're living in very difficult conditions. we are witnessing a lot of sorrow garbage is throwing -- is thrown everywhere. there are over 500 families here. words cannot express the hardship we live in. i challenge anyone to live here for even two hours. >> the leader of the lebanese militant group hezbollah has admitted to launching an iranian-made drone over israel in a rare incursion into israel's carefully controlled airspace. the unmanned drone was shot down by israel which regularly sends its own fighter planes over leban
more s on what they found, we would be concerned by any effort to supply military equipment to the al-assad regime because it is clearly being used by the regime against their own people. >> turkey has sided with rebels opposed to syrian president bashar al-assad fighting over the 18-month conflict between the regime and rebel forces which has displaced an estimated 300,000 syrians, sending them fleeing into turkey, jordan, iraq, and other countries. on thursday, syrian refugee described...
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hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about our marathon times, we lie about gm motors and the factory, and then we lie about what the secretary of state says. that's just the norm now, is it? >> and we clech our pearls about how mean and nasty the democrats are. we just won't let us say what we want to say that isn't true. when you lose a debate you sort of clutch for anything and grab for anything. the fact that almost everyone who is speaking up for the romney/ryan ticket today is focused on syria. syria, the one issue that was discussed last night that 99.9% of voters are not voting on in this elec
hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about...
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and in reference to bashar al assad. many of the members of congress of both parties she said have gone it syria in recent months said they believe he's a reformer. now, of both parties. and you to remember something about bashar al assad about the uprising against him in the year 2000, 2001 when he took over from his father, he was viewed as potentially a reformer by many people in western countries. clearly in the last 19 months this notion that in any way he's a reformer has gone out the window. >> 30 seconds, point of contention, that why the u.s. stepped in in libya but not in syria? >> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential deb
and in reference to bashar al assad. many of the members of congress of both parties she said have gone it syria in recent months said they believe he's a reformer. now, of both parties. and you to remember something about bashar al assad about the uprising against him in the year 2000, 2001 when he took over from his father, he was viewed as potentially a reformer by many people in western countries. clearly in the last 19 months this notion that in any way he's a reformer has gone out the...
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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the saudis believe. that is underway. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. we are the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the region. he
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces...
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oh assad is going to fall. do you know how long we have been saying that now? how many thousands will it take before assad falls, how many dead, wounded and injured men, women and children? and we are saying he is going to fall. yeah in the long run we are all dead. it does improve a thing. it just highlights the inconsistencies of what the administration is saying. i couldn't have said it better than the way it was just said. on iran, working with the congress, of course they are working with the congress because they had to. congress forced the sanctions on them and guess there has been a reduction in oil imports but the whole idea of the zero oil imports, that is not happen. and the question is, why not? mr. romney has said, i want to zero out the oil imports. now, the other point, we are going to do it on our own? we never said we were going to do it on our own. on the contrary what mr. romney has said we are going to work with their allies in the way that this administration is not. he doesn't plan to wake up the polish foreign minister in the middle of th
oh assad is going to fall. do you know how long we have been saying that now? how many thousands will it take before assad falls, how many dead, wounded and injured men, women and children? and we are saying he is going to fall. yeah in the long run we are all dead. it does improve a thing. it just highlights the inconsistencies of what the administration is saying. i couldn't have said it better than the way it was just said. on iran, working with the congress, of course they are working with...
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hillary clinton, hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. the main foreign policy point to take away from last night's debate was the fact that vice president biden continues to mislead the american people what happened in benghazi. we saw sworn testimony this week that said the state department officials in benghazi had requested extra security. last night vice president biden said that was not true. they had not heard that. when the first attacks were made, the administration went out and said that it was because of protests, because of a youtube video. then we found out that wasn't true. so today the obama administration has a lot of questions to answer, why they're misleading the american people and who is right in these different circumstances. jon: and then there was this exchange with moderator martha raddatz from abc about taxes. i want to play you a clip of that. >> in terms of style, you know, joe biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real and he is straightforward and he --. jon: th
hillary clinton, hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. the main foreign policy point to take away from last night's debate was the fact that vice president biden continues to mislead the american people what happened in benghazi. we saw sworn testimony this week that said the state department officials in benghazi had requested extra security. last night vice president biden said that was not true. they had not heard that. when the...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to come up with an agreement with the u.n. that bought bashar al assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turk
after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies....
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>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own country? >> in its own country and it doesn't want to see sunni political excitement built to its which could resonate to russia. the russias are looking at turkey's piftd and turkey has come back closer to the united states and they're not krtable with that because they saw nato and turkey and the united states get together and take out qaddafi and they don't want that to happen again to another ally. last but not least this is also putin's primal fear that if he sets up a precedent of supporting an uprising and the international community to back that uprising, th
>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own...
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si estalla y las personas equivocadas asumen el mando va a impactar toda la reg cuando semar che al assad haya un gobierno legÍtimo que siga no uno respaldado por al qaeda, y toda esta habladuria del gobernador romney y un con fw congresista podemos hacer mÁs a parte de poner tropas en el frente de batalla lo Único que necesitamos otra guerra de a pie de tropas de a pie, cien mil de ellas, eso son los hechos. ahorcada vez que ahora cada vez que al gobernador romo f romney lo aprietan, dicen quiere pan dar aviones, es lo que propone >>> si eso es aits que lsÍ que , nosotros estamos diciendo lo que tenemos que hacer para identificar aquellas fuerzas que crearan un gobierno estable y no, una guerra su fit y chiÍta, en la regiÓn, cuando haicaiga a assad >>> deje explicarles, cÓmo hacer las cosas diferentes, con sus armas que estÁ pro viendo rusia no deberÍamos misexplicar abu t por estar y despuÉs que hubo uno esfuerzo internacional, el presidente obama dijo que se deberÍa irse a, ha pasado paso de un aÑo te hombre ha asesinado decenas de miles de ciudadanos y mÁs y mas estÁn mu
si estalla y las personas equivocadas asumen el mando va a impactar toda la reg cuando semar che al assad haya un gobierno legÍtimo que siga no uno respaldado por al qaeda, y toda esta habladuria del gobernador romney y un con fw congresista podemos hacer mÁs a parte de poner tropas en el frente de batalla lo Único que necesitamos otra guerra de a pie de tropas de a pie, cien mil de ellas, eso son los hechos. ahorcada vez que ahora cada vez que al gobernador romo f romney lo aprietan, dicen...
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then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we gave russia veto power. and meanwhile about 30,000 sirrians are dead. >> biden: what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question -- >> ryan: no we would not be going through the un -- >> biden: you don't go through the un. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help humanitarian aide and other aide and training that we believe, the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside of syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page. nato as well as o
then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we...
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and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and trning is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the saudis believe, are the free forces inside of syria. that's under way. allies all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we were the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the
and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and trning is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voide for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion.
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voide for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the ground. but if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> i want to return home for these last few questions. this debate is indeed historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion? please talk about how you came to that decision. talk about
iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the...
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obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000 assyrians -- syrians are dead. >> what will you do differently? you never answer the question. you don't go through the un. that we have been in the process and have been for months to make sure that humanitarian aid as well as other aid is getting to the forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the free forces inside of syria. that is under way. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as the arab allies in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we enough. the fact of the mat
obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000...
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president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n., giving veto power to the u.n., and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. biden: he never answered the question. ryan: we would not be going to the u.n.. biden: you don't go through the u.n.. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid swells -- as well as other aid and training are getting to the forces that the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside the syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page, nato as well as our arab allies, in terms of trying to get a settlemen
president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n.,...